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- IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
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- REPORT FROM THE IETF MEETING
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- March 18th, 1993
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- Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
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- This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
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- These minutes were compiled by the IETF Secretariat which is supported
- by the National Science Foundation under Grant No. NCR 8820945.
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- For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
- iesg-secretary@cnri.reston.va.us.
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- ATTENDEES
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- Almquist, Philip / Consultant
- Crocker, Dave / SGI
- Crocker, Steve / TIS
- Coya, Steve / CNRI
- Gross, Philip / ANS
- Hinden, Robert / SUN
- Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS
- Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
- Knowles, Stev / FTP Software
- Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
- Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
- Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
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- IAB Liaison
- Chapin, Lyman / BBN
- Christian Huitema / INRIA
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- Regrets
- Borman, David / Cray Research
- Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
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- AGENDA
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- 1. Administrivia
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- o Roll Call
- o Bash the Agenda
- o Approval of minutes
- - Feb 22nd
- - Mar 1st
- - Mar 8th
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- 2. Protocol Actions
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- o RFC 1327 tutorial
- o NOC Tools revisited
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- 3. DRAFT Protocols Expired in Grade
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- o The Finger User Information Protocol <RFC1288>
- o Telnet Linemode Option <RFC1184>
- o NICNAME/WHOIS <RFC954>
- o Bootstrap Protocol <RFC951>
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- 4. PROPOSED Protocols Expired in Grade
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- o Transmitting IP Traffic over ARCNET Networks <RFC1201>
- o Use of OSI IS-IS for Routing in TCP/IP and Dual Environments <RFC1195>
- o Network News Transfer Protocol <RFC977>
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- 5. Working Group Actions
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- o Authentication and Access Control
- o Mail and Directory Management
- o Source Demand Routing
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- 6. Tasked Items
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- o RPC & NFS
- o IP Security Working Group Charter
- o IP Address Guidelines A/S
- o WAR with RIP
- o RIP A/S
- o Revised IPLPDN Working Group Charter
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- 7. Management Issues
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- o US vs International Domains
- o Status of SAAG
- o Co-Area Director for Security
- o The RFC1154 issue
- o Compressing TCP/IP Headers
- o New Working Group Chairman Orientation
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- MINUTES
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- 1) Administrivia
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- o Approval of the Minutes
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- The IESG approved the minutes of the February 22nd, the March 1st,
- and the March 8th Teleconferences.
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- o Next Meeting
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- The IESG next plans to meet informally over dinner at the IETF
- Plenary.
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- 2) Protocol Actions
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- o RFC 1327 Tutorial
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- This document was submitted to the IESG for consideration as an
- Informational document a bit pre-maturely. The Area Director has
- reviewed the document and has suggested several changes including a
- revision to the title. This item will be listed as "WG-DISCUSS"
- until a new document is submitted.
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- o NOC Tools
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- The NOC Tools Catalogue was approved by the IESG earlier as an
- Informational document. After the approval, and before publication,
- several additions were gathered. The IESG was asked whether the
- changes should be made to the document or whether original document
- should be published.
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- The NOC Tools Catalogue is one of several living documents that is
- updated regularly. Rather than revise the document after the IESG
- has approved it, the IESG recommends publication of an update
- document listing the new entries.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Notify the RFC Editor that the IESG recommends he
- publish the NOC Tools document as initially submitted and make any
- additions in a separate addendum document.
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- 3) Draft Standard Protocols Expired in Grade
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- The IESG briefly reviewed the status of the Draft Standard Protocols
- which have been Proposed Standards for more than 2 years to determine
- of IESG action is needed or whether any extensions granted earlier are
- still valid.
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- o Finger User Information Protocol
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- This protocol was revised since being elevated to Draft Standard.
- The revisions were made to make the documentation align more closely
- to the implemented protocol. The IESG should consider its status.
-
- ACTION: Hobby -- Prepare a protocol action notice for the elevation of
- Finger to full Standard.
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- o Telnet Linemode Option
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- This Telnet Option has been widely implemented and operationally
- deployed. Its status will be reviewed by the IESG.
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- ACTION: Hobby - Prepare a protocol action notice for the elevation of
- the Telnet Linemode Option to Full Standard.
-
- o NICNAME/WHOIS
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- The IESG earlier reviewed this protocol and found the documentation
- to be lacking. The current document is little more than the
- description of a specific service offered by the DDN NIC at one
- time. The Whois and Network Information Lookup Service Working
- Group is tasked to produce a new protocol document. No actions
- needed at this time.
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- o Bootstrap Protocol
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- Some additions to the BOOTP Protocol is being contemplated as part
- of the Dynamic Host Configuration effort. The IESG will consider
- the status of this protocol when the Dynamic Host configuration work
- is submitted to the IESG. No further action is needed at this
- time.
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- 4) Proposed Standard Protocols Expired in Grade
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- These protocols have been Proposed Standards for more than two years.
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- o Transmitting IP Traffic over ARCNET Networks
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- The IESG knew little of the status of this protocol, and committed
- to reviewing its status.
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- ACTION: Knowles or Piscitello -- Review the IP over ARCnet protocol and
- determine if it meets the requirements for Draft Standard status.
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- o Use of OSI IS-IS for Routing in TCP/IP and Dual Environments
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- A revision of RFC 1195 has been posted and work is continuing to
- implement and deploy the protocol. The chairman of this working
- group is unable to continue his service and a new chairman is being
- sought. This protocols should be reviewed by the IESG
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- ACTION: Hinden -- Investigate the status of the Dual IS-IS protocol.
- Report on whether an extension should be granted.
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- o Network News Transfer Protocol
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- The NNTP Protocol is being revised in the NNTP Working Group. It is
- not clear whether the new protocol should be considered an update or
- whether it is a new protocol. If the later, the original NNTP
- should be reviewed for advancement independently of the current
- revisions.
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- ACTION: Hobby -- Investigate the NNTP Protocol as defined in RFC 977
- and report on whether the protocol should be evaluated independently of
- the current protocol developments in the working group.
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- 5) Working Group Action
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- o Authorization and Access Control (aac)
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- The IESG continues to have questions about the relationship of IP
- Security, Common Authentication Technology, and this proposed
- group. A brief document relating these efforts was requested of the
- Security Area Director.
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- ACTION: SCrocker produce a short document describing the relationship
- between the IP Security, AAC, and CAT Working Groups and how they
- relate to the Internet security problem space.
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- o Mail and Directory Management (madman)
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- The charter is under active discussion. A new version is expected
- from Steve Kille. Participation in the charter drafting was
- explicitly requested of Dave Crocker.
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- o Source Demand Routing.
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- The Source Demand Routing Charter was recast to produce a prototype
- protocol initially. After the significant issues surrounding
- dynamic construction of source routes is resolved, the work will
- more to proposed standard. The IESG approved this Working Group.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Source Demand
- Routing Working Group.
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- 6) Tasked Items
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- Only the tasked items with some information to report are listed
- below.
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- o IP Addressing
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- The first draft of the IP Addressing Applicability Statement was
- written by Yakov Rekhter and Tony Li for the IESG.
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- ACTION: Gross, Hinden -- Review the draft Applicability Statement and
- after making any necessary changes post it as an Internet Draft.
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- o RPC-NFS
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- There continues to be no progress to report. The IESG agreed that
- the NFS and RPC documents will move to historic state regardless of
- whether SUN agrees to participate in an open process to define
- accurate new specifications. The question is on of timing and the
- IESG agreed to wait another two weeks before taking this action.
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- 7) Management Issues
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- o US and Regional ADMD Guidelines
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- The X.400 Operations Working Group is contemplating a proposed
- standard for the assignment of ADMDs in the US. This assignment
- strategy is applicable to other nations. The IESG recommends that
- this document be an developed as an Informational policy
- implementation guideline and not a standard.
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- ACTION: Huizer -- Advise the X.400 Operations Working Group that the
- IESG feels the X.400 ADMD assignment document should be an
- Informational implementation guidelines rather than standard.
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- o New Working Group chairman briefing.
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- The IESG agreed that the new Working Group Chairman orientation was a
- good idea. Without a syllabus, it was not clear the IESG should
- require attendance for new (or even some old-timers!).
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- ACTION: DCrocker -- Prepare a syllabus for the New Working Group
- chairman briefing and distribute to the IESG as soon before the IETF
- meeting as possible.
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- o Status of the SAAG
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- Steve Crocker related the history of the SAAG to the IESG and
- explained that the original mission of the SAAG, security education
- and guidance, does not quite satisfy the needs for an Area
- Directorate. The IESG agreed that the SAAG could be refocused on
- the protocol review and technical advisory missions that
- directorates have grown to meet.
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- o New Version of IP
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- There was not much information sent to the Internet Area Director
- on the current implementation experience for the proposed sucessors
- to the IP v4 protocol.
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- Appendix - Summary of Action Items Assigned
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Notify the RFC Editor that the IESG recommends he
- publish the NOC Tools document as initially submitted and make any
- additions in a separate addendum document.
-
- ACTION: Hobby -- Prepare a protocol action notice for the elevation of
- Finger to full Standard.
-
- ACTION: Hobby - Prepare a protocol action notice for the elevation of
- the Telnet Linemode Option to Full Standard
-
- ACTION: Knowles or Piscitello -- Review the IP over ARCnet protocol and
- determine if it meets the requirements for Draft Standard status.
-
- ACTION: Hinden -- Investigate the status of the Dual IS-IS protocol.
- Report on whether an extension should be granted.
-
- ACTION: Hobby -- Investigate the NNTP Protocol as defined in RFC 977
- and report on whether the protocol should be evaluated independently of
- the current protocol developments in the working group.
-
- ACTION: SCrocker produce a short document describing the relationship
- between the IP Security, AAC, and CAT Working Groups and how they
- relate to the Internet security problem space.
-
- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Announce the formation of the Source Demand
- Routing Working Group.
-
- ACTION: Gross, Hinden -- Review the draft Applicability Statement and
- after making any necessary changes post it as an Internet Draft.
-
- ACTION: Huizer -- Advise the X.400 Operations Working Group that the
- IESG feels the X.400 ADMD assignment document should be an
- Informational implementation guidelines rather than standard.
-
- ACTION: DCrocker -- Prepare a syllabus for the New Working Group
- chairman briefing and distribute to the IESG as soon before the IETF
- meeting as possible.
-